MINUTES FOR JUNE 15, 1999 IAB TELECONFERENCE

PRESENT:
Rob Austein
Ran Atkinson
Fred Baker
Steve Bellovin
Brian Carpenter
Tony Hain
Don Heath (ISOC liaison)
Tim Howes
Geoff Huston
John Klensin
Keith Moore (IESG liaison)
Joyce Reynolds (RFC Editor liaison)
Abel Weinrib (IAB Executive Director)


NEXT MEETING:
Face-face business meeting in Oslo Sunday July 11, 7:30.

NEW ACTION ITEMS:
* Steve Bellovin: Post on IETF Web site a list of common security attacks.

OLD ACTION ITEMS:
* John Klensin and Rob Austein: Organize mini-workshop in Oslo on DNS 
scaling concerns.
         = Ongoing.
* Brian Carpenter, Erik Huizer: Plan "Network Layer Futures" IAB workshop.
         = Done.
* Fred Baker, Charlie Perkins: Plan IAB workshop on wireless/mobility.
         = Open. Still waiting for a proposed date.
* Steve Deering: Organize a BOF on anycast addressing.
         = Open.
* Steve Deering: Make sure routing ADs are aware of multi-stranding routing.
         = Open.
* Steve Deering: Suggest to Routing Area ADs that they consider work on 
QOS-, TOS- and constraint-based routing.
         = Open.
* Steve Deering: Ask Routing Research Group to study what is breaking 
routing in the default-free zone and analyze multicast routing.
         = Open.
* Steve Deering for Charlie Perkins: Figure out what was actually meant by 
the routing  workshop item on SNMPv3 authentication, rate limiting, etc.; 
send to O&M ADs.
         = Open.
* Steve Deering for Charlie Perkins: Get detailed routing workshop notes 
published on IAB web site.
         = Open.

IAB DRAFTS IN PROGRESS:
* Brian Carpenter: Transparency
         = Ongoing. Expect to modify after IAB Utrecht workshop.
* Tony Hain: NAT/VPN
         = Ongoing. Received no comments. Will publish.
* Ned Freed: Security, firewalls, proxies, etc.
         = Ongoing. Draft out before Utrecht workshop.
* Steve Bellovin: Applicability statement for security building blocks.
         = Ongoing. Might be out by Draft cutoff date.
* Brian Carpenter and Erik Huizer: IAB charter (updated RFC 1601).
         = On hold.
* Steve Deering for Charlie Perkins: The case for IPv6.
         = Ongoing. Review comments to be incorporated.


1. review actions
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see above
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2. review drafts in progress
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see above
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3. administrivia
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Olso face-face meeting Sunday at 7:30.
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4. IRTF news
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Erik is arranging a face-face with research group chairs in Oslo.
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5. IESG liaison report
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Fred Baker reported on variety of discussions at IESG retreat:
+ security considerations section--will continue to require, believe 
reasonably successful at getting attention to security.
Question raised whether the IAB should hold a third security workshop? Not 
in '99, and will need to examine what we would expect to accomplish. One 
possibility is to develop better threat models.
+ informational RFCs--discussion re. should we continue to publish all 
random document submitted, rather than focusing on results from IETF 
Working Groups. Demands significant attention from IESG (could some of this 
be delegated to Area Directorates?). Two concerns: informational RFCs used 
for marketing purposes; informational RFCs that should have come through a 
working group. Continue discussions at an Oslo breakfast meeting.
+ scaling of IETF meetings--skills/training of working group chairs, design 
teams, etc.
+ advancing IPv6 beyond where it is today--reluctant to do this until have 
more deployment.
+ W3C--they go in their own direction, and expect us to follow; we need to 
work better together.
+ informational RFCs--standards track documents that are submitted by 
individuals, but would probably benefit from working group attention. Need 
to encourage them to engage with others in the community.
+ Old RFCs that are stuck at Proposed Standard level--clean up database, 
move to historical, etc.
+ Is the IESG doing the right job?--chartering groups vs. perfecting 
documents, etc.
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6. ICANN/IANA/PSO status
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ETSI is eager to get involved in the PSO. It is planned to have the
PSO MOU ready for signature in Oslo. The IAB is also working
on an IANA MOU.
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7. Simpson appeal status
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We will use the same procedure as already established in previous appeals. 
Brian Carpenter will send these procedures to Bill Simpson and also to the 
IETF list.
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8. Prepare for Oslo IETF
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Everyone should send topics for discussion to the list.
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Future Meetings
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Regular teleconference second Tuesday of the month at 10:00 AM Eastern Time.
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These minutes were prepared by Abel Weinrib, weinrib@intel.com.  An online 
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